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07-12-2006, 08:18 AM
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Why Marko Jaric is good for the Wolves
I like Marko Jaric and I think keeping him a Timberwolf should be Kevin Mchale's biggest proiority in the offseason. Jaric brings a winning attitude and tough spirit to the Wolves team. Trading him for Darius Miles will only cause more problems in the clubhouse and will lead to fractions in the team.
Keep Jaric a timberwolf. He'll be a cornerstone for a potential championship someday.
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07-12-2006, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Art
I like Marko Jaric and I think keeping him a Timberwolf should be Kevin Mchale's biggest proiority in the offseason. Jaric brings a winning attitude and tough spirit to the Wolves team. Trading him for Darius Miles will only cause more problems in the clubhouse and will lead to fractions in the team.
Keep Jaric a timberwolf. He'll be a cornerstone for a potential championship someday.
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Dude, are you nuts! He'll be a cornerstone. The same guy who sat for 8 games in a row because he "lost his confidence" is going to be a cornerstone. You ARE NUTS!
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07-12-2006, 08:41 AM
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I like the guy too but I donīt go that far.There are some evidences to keep the guy: This team has a poor/inexistent ball movement, he can play sg and sf and be a pass first player with some knowledge of the game.This team plays unorthodox basketball and because that they need game readers.Darius Miles is an agressive player,quick player but his basketball IQ is loooooooow.Marko is a warranty, yes he isnīt a point guard but he can play false pg when he is on the court with foye/james.Marko is a decent defender that lacks some more speed, but maybe if this team gets some kind of pf/c ( with faster lateral moves than Kandi) the guards canīt see the gold mine the twolves zone is.He lacks speed to guard Parker but he isnīt doing the gret ridicle that sammy featured with Andre Miller this past offseason.
The main problem of Marko is mental weakness.If he lands in a winning product ( I want the wolves to be that product  ) he can be other different player.By the way, his teammates have to take some blame on the Markoīs contribution=Not enough team players, some very limited role players( itīs not easy to increase your assists with Madsen in the post), players that play bizarre ball (Blount shooting from the corner, Ricky trapping the ball for 15 seconds, Eddie G and KG competing with Blount in a freaky shootout).
Iīm biased cause I donīt like Miles but Marko isnīt a role player or a crappy player like most people is pointing out.So I can admit that one guy says "bring Miles because he is a hell of a player", but please, stop the "unload dead weight" crusade.Every guy has the right to hate him but he has his fair value.
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07-12-2006, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolves4life
Dude, are you nuts! He'll be a cornerstone. The same guy who sat for 8 games in a row because he "lost his confidence" is going to be a cornerstone. You ARE NUTS!
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Wolves4life, you are far too young in the twolvescentral "game" to know about ART. We neither question or argue with his remarks. Art is to twolvescentral and hoops knowledge as Wally is to GQ. We must all never forget that. As my signature claims, J-Will is going to be an MVP candidate some yr, because ART said so. So let's trade for Williams, keep Jaric, and get ready for the O'Brien trophy! 
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07-12-2006, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by pagliatti
I like the guy too but I donīt go that far.There are some evidences to keep the guy: This team has a poor/inexistent ball movement, he can play sg and sf and be a pass first player with some knowledge of the game.This team plays unorthodox basketball and because that they need game readers.Darius Miles is an agressive player,quick player but his basketball IQ is loooooooow.Marko is a warranty, yes he isnīt a point guard but he can play false pg when he is on the court with foye/james.Marko is a decent defender that lacks some more speed, but maybe if this team gets some kind of pf/c ( with faster lateral moves than Kandi) the guards canīt see the gold mine the twolves zone is.He lacks speed to guard Parker but he isnīt doing the gret ridicle that sammy featured with Andre Miller this past offseason.
The main problem of Marko is mental weakness.If he lands in a winning product ( I want the wolves to be that product  ) he can be other different player.By the way, his teammates have to take some blame on the Markoīs contribution=Not enough team players, some very limited role players( itīs not easy to increase your assists with Madsen in the post), players that play bizarre ball (Blount shooting from the corner, Ricky trapping the ball for 15 seconds, Eddie G and KG competing with Blount in a freaky shootout).
Iīm biased cause I donīt like Miles but Marko isnīt a role player or a crappy player like most people is pointing out.So I can admit that one guy says "bring Miles because he is a hell of a player", but please, stop the "unload dead weight" crusade.Every guy has the right to hate him but he has his fair value.
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Unfortunately, this team can't use such a mentally weak player. Nothing is worse the people that have this "woe is me" philosophy. You are getting paid 5 mill a yr to do a job. Do a shot of vodka, and get out there. I'm in favor of trading this person to NY for Jerome James. Change small garbage into bigger garbage for the same money.
If he had a better outside shot, I wouldn't really complain. But the wolves are too guard heavy.
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07-12-2006, 09:01 AM
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Wolves4life, you are far too young in the twolvescentral "game" to know about ART. We neither question or argue with his remarks. Art is to twolvescentral and hoops knowledge as Wally is to GQ. We must all never forget that. As my signature claims, J-Will is going to be an MVP candidate some yr, because ART said so. So let's trade for Williams, keep Jaric, and get ready for the O'Brien trophy! 
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o gotcha
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07-12-2006, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Art
I like Marko Jaric and I think keeping him a Timberwolf should be Kevin Mchale's biggest proiority in the offseason. Jaric brings a winning attitude and tough spirit to the Wolves team. Trading him for Darius Miles will only cause more problems in the clubhouse and will lead to fractions in the team.
Keep Jaric a timberwolf. He'll be a cornerstone for a potential championship someday.
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Hey Marco, welcome to the list. One suggestion is for you to lay off the booze some and you might find yourself not riding the bench anymore.
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07-12-2006, 09:47 AM
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According to 82games.com, Marko's a rare Wolf who--when he was on the court--helped make the team more efficient at both ends of the floor. The only other player on the team you can say that about is Garnett.
http://www.82games.com/0506/05MIN3D.HTM
When Marko was playing, the offense scored 104.8 points per 100 possessions; when he wasn't, they scored 102.4 per 100 possessions, a difference of +2.4.
On D, when he played, the team surrendered 104.1 points per 100 possessions; when he sat, they coughed up 108.3, a difference of 4.2. That's pretty substantial.
He isn't a star, or a starting point guard for a type of team that Casey wants to run. And he's got a ridiculous contract. And he seems a little thin-skinned. But he's not a bad player, provided you give him a role he can handle.
I'd rather the Wolves look to trade a true disaster, like Blount, first.
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07-12-2006, 09:49 AM
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We must abide by the word of ART.
I guess we are keeping Marko.
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07-12-2006, 10:13 AM
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Nobody looked more pathetic than marco last year. He was miserable failure and disgracefully pathatic............I don't know what the thread starter was thinking....
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07-12-2006, 10:19 AM
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07-12-2006, 10:20 AM
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We must abide by the word of ART.
I guess we are keeping Marko.
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What if we trade him for J-Will? Would that make Art happy?
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07-12-2006, 10:35 AM
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07-12-2006, 01:49 PM
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i like jaric on the roster too bad he couldnt start at the point but i like him as the first guy off the bench kind of player because he can play a little point to a certain degree and he can play the 2 and probably the 3 but i think either him or trenton has to go and packaged somehow to bring in a big man probably just a dream but magloire would be great then we could combo him and blount kg craig smith and madsen and or griffen in some combination i would feel a lot better about that situation
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07-12-2006, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nicbball22
i like jaric on the roster too bad he couldnt start at the point but i like him as the first guy off the bench kind of player because he can play a little point to a certain degree and he can play the 2 and probably the 3 but i think either him or trenton has to go and packaged somehow to bring in a big man probably just a dream but magloire would be great then we could combo him and blount kg craig smith and madsen and or griffen in some combination i would feel a lot better about that situation
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How many periods have you used total in your combined 216 posts? I'll set the over/under at 3...
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07-12-2006, 02:57 PM
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I hate that Jaric's contract goes all the way until 2010-11 season. Otherwise, I think he can be better than he was last season (it wouldn't be too hard). With inuries, having a versatile guy who can spot in at the 1,2, and 3 positions is nice to have. What I would like to Jaric work on this offseason:
- Practice his 3 point shot. Last season he only shot 30%. I'd take the 37% he shot the season before with the clippers. If we teamed him up with Foye, James, and KG he would likely see alot of open shots from the perimiter.
- Relax and enjoy playing. IMO, he seemed a little tense and afraid to make mistakes at the PG spot. The pressure is off of Jaric if he wants it to be. He's the only one that believes he should be a PG. He's a versatile player that can contribute in many roles. If he can get off the idea that he needs to be a PG and embrace his ability to play multiple positions it would help everyone out. It seemed like as the season wore on he began doubting his ability and thinking through every move before he did it. It's too bad because it messed up his game. If he can get his confidence back and not worry about making mistakes he could be a nice player for us.
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07-12-2006, 04:06 PM
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Relax and enjoy playing.
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You are right JFry -- this is the key.
I like Jaric's versatility, and don't mind him at all off the bench (in theory). But he didn't contribute at all last year, he has a terrible contract, the fans don't like him, and I don't think his teammates like him much.
He is just too burdened by expectations here (being brought in for Cassell and a first, with a huge contract). Plus he's sort of mental I think.
I think trading him would be the best thing for Jaric and the Wolves.
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07-12-2006, 04:33 PM
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you can nitpick about grammar all you want this is a messege board i really dont care
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07-12-2006, 04:55 PM
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you can nitpick about grammar all you want this is a messege board i really dont care
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At least spell message right. 
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07-12-2006, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nicbball22
you can nitpick about grammar all you want this is a messege board i really dont care
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If you're going to spend time putting your thoughts down for us to read, you may as well throw some punctuation in there. It's just more clear that way.
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